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1.)Our opponents have screwed things up.
2.) We can do a better job if given a chance.
I participate in such discussions (as do we all) and appreciate them for their merits, but they are ultimately limited.
A round-table, free-wheeling discussion of popular culture, on the other hand, can spin off in an infinite number of directions. It can take you from poetry to music to television, to literature, to film, to sociology and psychology, to marketing and persuasion, to technology and its role in the future.... I suspect your dinner last November touched on most, if not all, of those areas, and more besides.
Popular culture is not a trifle, or an idle diversion. It is like water to a fish; it surrounds us and, to a large degree, it defines us. But unlike our finny friends, we can actively participate in evaluating and determining the quality of our environment. Which I suppose is what you have in mind.
Good luck! I'll be back.