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Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

SweetSue — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:11:25 -0000

You' d think young Pete would have informed on his disappearing boss the second he landed at Idlewild.
Well, that ploy didn't work so well the first time he tried it, so he's probably wary.
I come here and see that everything that I want to say-the Eurotrash are obviously grifters and I thought I heard the theme from "Rome"-I find it's already on the table.
Gee, you guys are good.
I've never seen much talk about the time a woman called Dick/Don's bluff at the car dealership? Was that a real job for him, or was he imagining a path not taken?

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

shirley — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:44:44 -0000

What the hell was that?

"I take it you're well off?" Jesus.

I really get the feeling that Matt Weiner poured all his adolescent fantasies into Don Draper but, being such a painfully uncool guy himself, is ultimately incapable of pulling it off. (No euphemism intended)

So he's gone from Dick to Don to Dick. Am I reading too much into that?

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

Steve Paradis — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:09:47 -0000

Maybe Don's going Flitcraft, but as Dick Whitman. Hell, it's California--he can be a Congressman for a while.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

tomwatson — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:08:45 -0000

You' d think young Pete would have informed on his disappearing boss the second he landed at Idlewild.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

MaPeel — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:08:00 -0000

Well, as creepy Duke Daddy said, Don is "beautiful and doesn't say much."

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

JamesS — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:05:58 -0000

I see Don checking into the Sandstone Retreat in the next episode...oh, wait that's ten years down the road...

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

James Wolcott — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:04:56 -0000

They're really overbanking on the supposed charisma of Jon Hamm/Don Draper and dangerously dulling out the character.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

Steve Paradis — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:02:54 -0000

So, gin is like spinach for Duck?

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

tomwatson — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:02:37 -0000

Maybe he and Freddy Rumson are forming a new Hollywood agency?
I am totally and thoroughly confused....

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

JamesS — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:02:31 -0000

...and they bumped out playing Jay Gatsby's theme song. I'm all messed up.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

James Wolcott — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:02:29 -0000

Draper adrift in the sundrenched limbo is reminding me of some of those Tony Soprano dream sequences and the last season Sopranos episode set in Vegas that was somnambulistic and cryptic.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

MaPeel — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:59:49 -0000

Wow. What an action-packed episode. Ending with Don's baggage returned to his house, freeing him to be Dick Whitman for someone.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

James Wolcott — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:58:53 -0000

What the hell is going on in this show? With this show?

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

chucktryon — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:58:47 -0000

Faulkner was hip enough by 1962 that it would seem like the Euro girl would be reading a more recent novel.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

tomwatson — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:58:23 -0000

I get it - "Don Draper" is just his blogger name.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

chucktryon — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:55:05 -0000

It certainly seems like somebody's dream.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

MaPeel — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:51:54 -0000

I say that Don is still on the plane from the last episode, and this is a dream sequence--

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

tomwatson — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:49:13 -0000

Heh-heh - yeah, that guy is multi-talented.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

MaPeel — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:47:43 -0000

So Peggy is the grandmother of "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy/Girl"--who knew.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

JamesS — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:44:41 -0000

Old Europe is working over the Ameri-mutts this week.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

tomwatson — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:44:05 -0000

Yeah, even the Brits - and their shady deals with Duck.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

chucktryon — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:43:13 -0000

Yes, I keep expecting Roger Mason to pop in smugging some microfiche in the belly of a small statue.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

tomwatson — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:42:26 -0000

He's like part of the scenery, even to Joy's, er, Dad.

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

James Wolcott — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:41:58 -0000

Damn those Europeans with their loose morals and dubious accents!

Re: Mad Men: EST, aka Even Suckers Transform

James Wolcott — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:40:22 -0000

Don is looking especially dopey this episode.