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Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

km90210 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:02:01 -0000

At this point I'm worried that MM is going to drift into "Peyton Place" territory. I much prefer the Madison Ave storylines than I do the "too much sex and alcohol in the suburbs" pieces.

I'm going to dig up my "Collected Stories of John Cheever" to see how much the show owes to him or could perhaps use.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

Steve Paradis — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:14:53 -0000

Misdirection: Despite the two explicit references to Gregory Peck, Don's real referrent is William Holden, who embodied the man who said things confidently that he was trying desperately to believe, and who was married to Grace Kelly in a picture, and for a few months during its making. See him in "Executive Suite", singlehandedly trying to save the soul of a company from the devil Frederic March-- a furniture company, whose products deservedly fill Salvation Army stores.

In any case, Robert Morse's plus-fours sent this weeks' ep straight to Oz.
Unsurpassable, unless he starts chanting "Groundhogs! Groundhogs!"

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

JamesS — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:36:11 -0000

"No one dies doing this..." Yeah, pass it on to Nelson Rockefeller.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

tomwatson — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:00:49 -0000

Ha - yeah - "for the little one."

And as Jim Wolcott just posted at his place: Peggy and the priest--a little too close to Carmela and the priest in the feelers being sent out. And who used the word "biggie" in 1962? Nobody, that's who.

No matter how big the potential client or contract, Sterling Cooper doesn't exactly crackle with creative electricity.

Hey, sis--don't Bogart the confessional.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

tomwatson — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:59:56 -0000

Yeah - he's the Tony Soprano of advertising.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

MaPeel — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:58:22 -0000

Tom Hanks is a Jesuit! That explains everything

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

chucktryon — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:56:56 -0000

Yeah, that turned things up a notch.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

chucktryon — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:56:28 -0000

They're kind of like the twins from The Shining. They seem vaguely medicated or hypnotized or something.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

MaPeel — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:56:13 -0000

Woah. Don's push was pretty ugly. He is a dangerous man--

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

tomwatson — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:55:27 -0000

No wonder those kids are screwed up. But why don't they cry?

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

chucktryon — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:52:14 -0000

Yeah, guessing that wouldn't have happened, especially in 1962.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

tomwatson — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:51:33 -0000

I think you're right.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

MaPeel — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:49:48 -0000

I'm pretty sure it was still "Holy Ghost" in 1962

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

tomwatson — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:49:25 -0000

Yep pretty much

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

MaPeel — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:48:22 -0000

A Waspy company having a meeting on Good Friday? I don't think so.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

chucktryon — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:48:08 -0000

Having this meeting on Good Friday is a little over the top.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

chucktryon — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:43:29 -0000

Oh, good point. That probably would have been pretty chilly, no?

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

tomwatson — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:41:20 -0000

Tennis too - not much indoor tennis in 1962.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

chucktryon — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:40:55 -0000

Yeah, this episode isn't quite working. The "American Airlines is about the future" bit is interesting, especially given the state of the airline industry today.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

tomwatson — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:40:32 -0000

And Palm Sunday? Who has big plans for Palm Sunday?

Also, golf in April in New York - bzzzt. Another California touch - like horses and green trees in February and March. Laughable.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

MaPeel — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:39:00 -0000

The magic of multiple storylines just doesn't happen for me here. Everything hangs apart. How everyone is spending their Palm Sunday is an interesting idea--but it feels fractured rather than strong.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

tomwatson — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:37:26 -0000

C'mon lurkers...we can see you out there.

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

tomwatson — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:34:27 -0000

Not exactly Take Your Daughter to Work Day....

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

tomwatson — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:32:21 -0000

A big thank-you to research!

Re: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

MaPeel — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:30:49 -0000

Okay, before 1970, the fifth Sunday of Lent was called Passion Sunday. I stand corrected. After 1970 that designation for the fifth Lenten Sunday was dropped, and Palm Sunday was officially named "Palm Sunday of the Lord's Passion."