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newcritics: Mad Men: “Tears rise in the heart and gather in the eyes”

  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    Paradise Regained? The book was pretty blurry did anyone see it?
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    I couldn't quite make it out either, other than that F Scott Fitzgerald was the author.
  • James S. · 1 year ago
    It's not a sermon, it's a Homily...
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    Hi, just checking to make sure I've remembered my login. I'm not sure I'll be able comment much given that I'm somewhat behind on the show, but I'll try to sporadically participate.
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    Hi Chuck - last week's, which we didn't live-blog, was pretty good. Looking forward to tonight.
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    Tom Hanks guest spot?!

    Maybe not...fur Peggy digs the cassock.
  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    Peggy, almost got away--
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    He did have a bit of a Tom Hanks vibe....This is completely disconnected, but I was just thinking about Tom Hanks' very secial geust appearances on "Family Ties" the other day when he played Alex's cool uncle.
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    Wasn't that a Bosom Buddies cross-over promotion?
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    Maybe...I only saw Bosom Buddies in syndication....that show was a little too edgy for my evangelical parents.
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    It did have "bosom" in the title, after all...
  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    That prayer thing was weird. Is he an imposter?
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    Yeah, there's something fishy about him...and not just the Hanks vibe.
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    He's like the Pete of priests....very Pete-like.
  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    Passion Sunday and Palm Sunday are the same thing, not 2 different days. Could if have been different in 1962?
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    Yeah, this has a bit of a faux Catholic feel to it...
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    Yeah, I thought it was pretty Catholic-lite.
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    I wouldn't think so. That is odd....
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    There are things that are pretty authentic in this series - and others that aren't - and the Catholic stuff belongs to the latter. As does the travel in the show. Don takes the train - except for the times when he drives in and parks in front of the office on Madison Avenue so he can have sex in the car. Right. And...the Ossining train runs through Katonah (from last year) - riiiight.
  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    There's quite a bit of research that seems to be off. A colleague of mine pointed out that commercials in 1962 were at least one minute long---nothing like the short spot Jimmy did last week.
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    Yeah, the show seems a little off the mark tonight. And maybe in other episodes as well.
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    Yeah, then there's the travel/commute - see my comments above. Sloppy research. They're obsessed with costumes and sets, but always kinda lame with the cultural references and authenticity.
  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    Okay, before 1970, the fifth Sunday of Lent was called Passion Sunday. I stand corrected. After 1970 that designation for the fifth Lenten Sunday was dropped, and Palm Sunday was officially named "Palm Sunday of the Lord's Passion."
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    A big thank-you to research!
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    Not exactly Take Your Daughter to Work Day....
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    C'mon lurkers...we can see you out there.
  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    The magic of multiple storylines just doesn't happen for me here. Everything hangs apart. How everyone is spending their Palm Sunday is an interesting idea--but it feels fractured rather than strong.
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    And Palm Sunday? Who has big plans for Palm Sunday?

    Also, golf in April in New York - bzzzt. Another California touch - like horses and green trees in February and March. Laughable.
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    Tennis too - not much indoor tennis in 1962.
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    Oh, good point. That probably would have been pretty chilly, no?
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    Yep pretty much
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    Yeah, this episode isn't quite working. The "American Airlines is about the future" bit is interesting, especially given the state of the airline industry today.
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    Having this meeting on Good Friday is a little over the top.
  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    A Waspy company having a meeting on Good Friday? I don't think so.
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    Yeah, guessing that wouldn't have happened, especially in 1962.
  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    I'm pretty sure it was still "Holy Ghost" in 1962
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    I think you're right.
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    No wonder those kids are screwed up. But why don't they cry?
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    They're kind of like the twins from The Shining. They seem vaguely medicated or hypnotized or something.
  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    Woah. Don's push was pretty ugly. He is a dangerous man--
  • chuck tryon · 1 year ago
    Yeah, that turned things up a notch.
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    Yeah - he's the Tony Soprano of advertising.
  • MaPeel · 1 year ago
    Tom Hanks is a Jesuit! That explains everything
  • tomwatson · 1 year ago
    Ha - yeah - "for the little one."

    And as Jim Wolcott just posted at his place: Peggy and the priest--a little too close to Carmela and the priest in the feelers being sent out. And who used the word "biggie" in 1962? Nobody, that's who.

    No matter how big the potential client or contract, Sterling Cooper doesn't exactly crackle with creative electricity.

    Hey, sis--don't Bogart the confessional.
  • James S. · 1 year ago
    "No one dies doing this..." Yeah, pass it on to Nelson Rockefeller.
  • Steve Paradis · 1 year ago
    Misdirection: Despite the two explicit references to Gregory Peck, Don's real referrent is William Holden, who embodied the man who said things confidently that he was trying desperately to believe, and who was married to Grace Kelly in a picture, and for a few months during its making. See him in "Executive Suite", singlehandedly trying to save the soul of a company from the devil Frederic March-- a furniture company, whose products deservedly fill Salvation Army stores.

    In any case, Robert Morse's plus-fours sent this weeks' ep straight to Oz.
    Unsurpassable, unless he starts chanting "Groundhogs! Groundhogs!"
  • km90210 · 1 year ago
    At this point I'm worried that MM is going to drift into "Peyton Place" territory. I much prefer the Madison Ave storylines than I do the "too much sex and alcohol in the suburbs" pieces.

    I'm going to dig up my "Collected Stories of John Cheever" to see how much the show owes to him or could perhaps use.