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Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

cgeye — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:45:53 -0000

A love whose name is spoke, in the NYT:

Titans of industry, and ATLAS SHRUGGED.

http://tinyurl.com/2uz48w

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

Kristin — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:07:33 -0000

Oh, look out Lois. You're about to be one hell of a beard. And did anyone else spot Ernie from "My Three Sons" as Duane in the art department? (Hi, my knowledge of television is entirely obscure.) Anyhoo, I finally got the new Attention Deficit Theatre post up. Stop by and visit if you like.
http://www.unboundedition.com/content/view/2366/

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

cgeye — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:53:43 -0000

Don's revelation? Not ridiculous, once we remember that Midge was alone with the boy, in "Babylon", wearing a sweater and her panties. She had no problem being the girl in a JULES ET JIM/DESIGN FOR LIVING sammich, as long as the boys fought over her, instead of each other.

I don't know how them NYC girls were raised, but if I'm wearing that little clothing alone with a straight boy, I think I'd like him a bit, wouldn't you guess?

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

Jim Tourtelott — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:15:01 -0000

Certainly this episode had moments hat were better written and acted than anything we could have expected based on past form--most notabky the restaurant scene. And it had its share of the more frequent charms it has given us, like the Morse scene. Several of its subplots, notably Pete and Peggy, were engrossing. None of that, however, changes the fact that virtually everything involving the central character of the series was unrelievedly dumb. There is no Goddamn excuse for the beatniks. (If I want to hear Sketches, all I have to do is put it in the cd player.) And Don's revelation that his paramour was In Love with the head hipster based on the evidence of the Instamatic was ludicrous.

Like most commenters, I think, I'm in this for the incidental pleasures. (Well, that and my entirely inexplicable lust for Peggy.) The principal of those pleasures, of course, is hanging out with you guys on Thursday nights.

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

Tom Watson — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:43:38 -0000

cgeye - I agree with you, this was the episode that betrayed some real promise for the series. Still clunky, still over the top with the "it's 1960!" cultural references, still firing blanks on Don Draper, but I liked it...

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

-k- — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:59:53 -0000

This week - $2,500 to his now ex-mistress.

2-3 weeks ago - $5,000 to his brother

When Draper dumps you, its quite a payday.

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

-k- — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:44:21 -0000

Watching the "encore" edition (to see it a 2nd time)...Robert Morse is brilliant casting. I'm not buying Draper's mistress as a beatnik. The mousey chick who doesn't have a clue about Sal, the art director.

Did Eliott just flirtatiously swallow those beans? To judge by Sal's shocked expression, I'd say that he did.

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

cgeye — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:44:11 -0000

I know this won't change the minds of the meh-agents and hatas out there, but this episode went to better than average once the Twist came on, and went towards exemplary, with Sal's scenes. Sal's almost seduction was the best written work I've seen on the show, simply because two intelligent people were speaking as openly and as erotically as they dared, all within the restraints of the time.

That glimpse of wrist, that bold taking of the Sambucca made me dizzy...

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

Jim Tourtelott — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:31:43 -0000

Why, thank you MA. (That is, unless you meant Mr. W.)

I have to say, the re-run of Tim Gunn's Guide to Style I'm watching is more fun than Mad Men. Anybody want to live-blog that?

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

cgeye — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:27:53 -0000

One day, Pete will spawn a Whore Child of his own.

By the name of Patrick Bateman.

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

cgeye — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:26:01 -0000

For moi, it's the stench of exhaled blunts, on the way home....

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

Dan Leo — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:11:02 -0000

I missed the beginning part, but I'm digging this series now.

I just wrote a scene for a story I'm serializing in my blog that's oddly similar to the scene with Don getting high with the beatniks, except in my story they're listening to "Kind of Blue" instead of "Sketches"; the beatniks ask my hero if he likes Coltrane and he thinks they're saying "coal train".

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

M.A. Peel — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:09:19 -0000

Jim, the universe is obviously not indifferent to you--

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

James Wolcott — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:06:47 -0000

Funny, I was at a downtown party where the smell of pot was fragancing the air, then I come home and they're smoking reefer and lying around unmotivated on Mad Men: my life and TV habits are now in perfect fluid sync.

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

steverino — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:59:06 -0000

G'night, MA. It's been a blast. Thanks.

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

-k- — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:57:57 -0000

"You can't go out there - cops,"

"No, *you* can't go out there."

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

Tom Watson — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:55:17 -0000

Jim, that's Whore Childspeak...

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

Jim Tourtelott — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:53:57 -0000

Maybe the best exchange in series history:

"The universe is indifferent."

"Man, why'd you have to go and say that?"

Why, indeed?

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

steverino — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:51:42 -0000

NOW who's the whore?

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

ghosh — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:51:05 -0000

beatniks doing the bunny hop? Never.
Quick cut to Steinbeck childhood with a mother straight out of Chayefsky's "The Goddess."1958

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

-k- — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:50:33 -0000

Overall, this is the most interesting episode I've seen in weeks.

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

Tom Watson — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:49:06 -0000

I'm pretty sure Whore Child was a thrash band out of Seattle mid-90s. I could be wrong.

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

-k- — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:47:57 -0000

"haven't you heard? I'm a whore-child."

That explains it!

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

M.A. Peel — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:47:23 -0000

Don Boy as a whore child. What did I miss. Why is Mom a whore?

Re: Live Blogging Mad Men: When Don Met Sal and Dean

Claire Helene — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:46:55 -0000

I vote for Pete the serial killer. Ten to one he starts hitting Peggy or something like that. But she'll take it for some reason.